I get the impression "Father Divine" was a NYC-based attention-seeker. I'm finding more about him...
Nathan Natas
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The Golden Age -- "Making Unleavened Bread for the Memorial"
by Nathan Natas ini know that in the past some have asked about this.
i would add that before you dry the matzoh, run a docker over the cracker or prick it all over with a fork.
this is supposed to prevent large "blisters" from forming, and the dough enjoys it.. .
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Millie210 asked, "... has a vaguely kosher sound to it doesn't it?"
It does, doesn't it? Back then I suppose the assumption was that spring water was "good" water... and I think it took about 100 years for the WTB&TS to accept the "germ theory of disease.
The Watchtower "companion magazines" back then tried to be the hard-copy iPad of its day. It did poorly in any role it played.
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"The Paradise Earth" debunked, an email to my JW parents.
by FatherFirst inhey guys, just your son.
i don't mean to bother you, however i came across something really interesting pertaining to the last time me and dad had a "bible discussion" i thought you should see, and since it's straight from the horses mouth so to speak, i assumed you'd be willing to.. just in case you forgot, at the time, i was making the argument that:.
) the new world translation when compared to other well known and accepted translations replace several words which seem to change the meaning.
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Nathan Natas
Your folks have access to an electron microscope, I gather.
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The Golden Age -- "Making Unleavened Bread for the Memorial"
by Nathan Natas ini know that in the past some have asked about this.
i would add that before you dry the matzoh, run a docker over the cracker or prick it all over with a fork.
this is supposed to prevent large "blisters" from forming, and the dough enjoys it.. .
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I know that in the past some have asked about this. I would add that before you dry the matzoh, run a docker over the cracker or prick it all over with a fork. This is supposed to prevent large "blisters" from forming, and the dough enjoys it.
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The 1914 doctrine: How long it will last?
by opusdei1972 inone hundred years have passed and the society still supports this lie, which of course, is the basis of their other lies, like that of the unfaithful and not discreet slave appointed in 1919. however, i wonder, what will happen after 50 years, when the overlapped generation will pass?.
and if you want, what will happen with this religion in 2100?, could it survive with the same lie??
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what was significant about 1914?
Seriously?
It was the date when war broke out in heaven and Satan and his angels were hurled into the vicinity of the earth, Jesus was crowned King and began ruling over a New Heavens and a New Earth. Have you no eyes, man?
O wait, I'm sorry. All that was invisible.
As for how long the WTB&TS can continue to use 1914 as a "Bible-based" anchor date, I think the answer is either "until time indefinite" or "as long as suckers are being born."
The date 1914 is essential to setting the date 2034. You haven't heard about 2034?
That's because the foundation-work for the date hasn't set yet; but 2034 is what you get when you add 1914 and 120, and 120 is the number of years that Noah spent as a special pioneer, selling his two prophetic clay tablet magazines, "Watch The Sky" and "Hepzibah." "Hepzibah" changed it's name twice, first to "Dehydration" and then to "Hey Now!"
It is rumored that in the creaky old Watchtower warehouse that still stands on Staten Island at the site of the old Bethel Farm and WBBR studios, the WTB&TS has a few of those old cuneiform tablets, but it has been forgotten if these are originals or reprints. From time-to-time one might show up on eBay at grossly inflated prices, often as ashtrays.
And although it sounds far-fetched, the magical date 2034 itself will spawn a host of dates by arithmetically mating with the "Bible-based" sacred integers 40 and 50 and their related factors.
...and THAT, dear friends, is THE REST of the story!
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How Do You Stretch Your Food Dollars?
by compound complex indear budgetarian grocery-buyers,.
i am an artist though hardly a starving artist.
some of my patrons kindly feed me and i do have my well-stocked freezer.
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IF you transport more than five gallons of mushrooms out of the forest you will need a permit from the local sheriff's office in Washington State.
They're only thinking of you...
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How Do You Stretch Your Food Dollars?
by compound complex indear budgetarian grocery-buyers,.
i am an artist though hardly a starving artist.
some of my patrons kindly feed me and i do have my well-stocked freezer.
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I buy rotelli and stretch it into angel hair. >cymbal crash<
Soak chia or flax seeds in the leftover water from canned sardines for a faux caviar. Consume it with sham-pagne. >cymbal crash<
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discussion w/ Barbara G. Harrison today
by Dogpatch ini just got off the phone with author barbara grizzuti harrison (visions of glory; italian days, etc.
) who is currently living in brooklyn and has serious health problems.
she is now 67, but is very mentally alert and still has an excellent sense of humor!
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Nathan Natas
At the time of BGH's death, Randy was telling everyone that she had given him permission to put "Visions of Glory" online. I don't know if that was "exclusive" permission or if the permission was granted in writing.
Randy has had trouble with the running of his site which I think is the reason that "VoG" became lost.
It may fall to an anonymous party to prepare a pdf version of "VoG" for free distribution.
I'm not certain, but there probably wouldn't be copyright issues like those associated with Ray Franz' books.
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Why Do People Become Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus inbesides being raised in the religion , why do people become jws?
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Nathan Natas
This has been an interesting and informative discussion!
Let me turn the examination on myself and try to answer "Why did you go along with yo "mama's club" for about 20 years?
Let's see:
1. I was raised to be an obedient and respectful kid. I wasn't PERFECT, but I wasn't a "rebel" or a "hell raiser."
2. I have always been somewhat gullible; it takes me a while to figure out that someone is trying to deceive me. (Believe it or not, this continues to be the case today. I compensate by being generally reclusive.) I believed in Santa, Jesus and Jehovah longer than I should have.
3. When my mom converted, she destroyed the family. Dad split, we ceased communication with all my "satanic" aunts, uncles and cousins. Thus my access to contrasting opinions was curtailed. I had no school friends. We moved from one low-rent hole-in-the-wall to another frequently enough that by the time I left High School I had attended a total of 8 different schools. I was never, in my mind, part of the "class of XX". I never thought about it.
4. ARMAGEDDON WAS COMING! (I told you I was gullible.) I learned that I had a share in a great life-saving work. I did what I was told to do.
5. If I ignored the pain, it was easy. So I ignored the pain, mostly.
How did I change my mind and eventually leave?
I began to see inconsistencies between what I was told "the world" was like and what I actually experienced. "Worldly people" weren't terrible; they were PEOPLE.
I began to notice the little mental manipulations and mind games that the Elders played. "Your sideburns are 1/8 of an inch (3mm) too long" was one example. Trying to use ME to hammer other JW kids was another: "Brother Natas, do you feel that Sister Sally's dress is appropriate for a Christian?"
(My answer was, "It doesn't bother me.") It was a LONG dress way back when long dresses came into fashion, and Sister Sally was an Elder's kid who was going to become a pawn in an Elder Pissing Match if I resplied any other way.
I expressed an interest in "serving where the need was greater," saying I would like to see better results from my door-to-door work and I was told by an elder that my motivation was incorrect. He might have been right about that. I didn't pursue the idea a minute longer.
Then I found out that one of the "six-month TRUTH BOOK wonders" in our congregation was a pedophile, and that cracked my cosmic egg. It took time, but I was finally OUT.